Reloading Manual shows that 13.9 grains of H110 will drive If part of your plinking enjoyment . (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Problem is I am using 125 gn flat nose Berry's (plated) bullets. For Stay in the know. Both the Browning B92 and the Rossi Model 92 were based on the Winchester 1892, while the Marlin used a modernized version of their original 1894 levergun. I have been working up some loads for my 357's (686 6", 27 5", and 28 4") using Alliant Power Pro 300MP. You can get some rounds with wallop from a manufacturerbut itll cost you. You can try bowling pin shooting or metallic silhouette. The armor piercing round was 10mm Auto. I keep my loads to 1,100 FPS in the .357 magnum w/ cast bullets. If you dont handload, fear notthe .357 is one of the easiest rounds to learn on. Super clean burning. These will give you some versatility with power levels from medium to heavy magnum loads and they work well in several calibers. It has all the metering benefits that come with a spherical powder but has significantly more volume per charge weight than other options. With Sierras 158 JSP, 15.5 grains of H4227 is right at 1,380 fps and groups three shots well under 1 at 45 yards. I'm just putting together a short list to get me going. Remington's Nylon 66 semi-automatic .22 LR rifles have grown from 1950s bargain buys to 21st century collectors darlings. CCI Primers - Per 1000. In Cowboy Action Shooting, 45 Colt guns are popular for authenticitys sake, but .357 guns are more practical from a cost standpoint. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: You can. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. For the 158 grain JHP the MV Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. Not sure of your experience level , ya need to get some manuals and study up the bullet weights your gonna shoot. "I'm not often right but I've never been wrong. Sounds like things are going real good with the reloading, Chance. Federal Centerfire Primers. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Because of Titegroup's density, the ONLY place I will use it is in 380 and below cartridges. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w/regular small pistol primers has become my favorite. It takes me all day to do what I used to do all day - but I still enjoy doin' it! There are several good handgun powders for that use such as AA-1680, H-110 and 4227 and IMR 4427. Cartridges page. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. New. Unique is a great choice. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. All my .38/.357 guns love this load (S&W 642/Ruger Blackhawks/Ruger GP100/Marlin 1894 Cowboy). Maximum versatility? This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. The difference between the 158 and 180 grain bullets on the pins is remarkable. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. Winchester Rifle Primers. flatnose hard cast bullet. JSP, .357 with JHP, .357 with JSP. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. NEI #200.358GC. If you do use Titegroup, be aware that it is a particularly compact powder. Hand loading required. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. with unavoidable grey area. Personally, it would never go into a semi auto that had a partially supported chamber, never. I would exclude H110 altogether. State Agency: John said in 1983, All in all, I wound up this research project considerably more impressed with the .357 Magnum as a rifle cartridge than I expected to be when I started out the little pistol round can deliver the goods in a rifle and more importantly, provide an awful lot of shooting fun per penny in the process. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Copyright. It has been my favorite .357Mag load for 40+yr. Try this load out for yourself and after fixing up your sights, youll likely be impressed by the groups it can produce. Contest open to U.S. residents only. In a pinch, the .38 Super can be fired through a .357 Mag, however that is not recommended on a . 125 gr. I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. Alliant Powder Smokeless Powders. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet Sounds like you used a standard primer. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. JHP makes an excellent short barrel load. Any of the recommendations here are spot on, but I will say I've always used Unique and 2400 for .357's, buy it by the 4lb container, never had issues with metering, but I'm sure it depends on the powder measure your using. No soup can is safe. The .357 remains the best selling of all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun cartridges. for quite some time. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. So, youll need a .357 magnum firearm and a reloading press to really enjoy the cartridge. It gives the same or better velocities than Hodgdon's H110 and Wichester's Win296 (which are the same powder and either would be my second choice with Herc 2400 coming in third) at about 2/3 the pressure. Follow the reloading manuals precisely. It was not long before Winchester Model 1892s originally in .32-20 were converted to .357 Magnum. Pennsylvania Game Commission, State Agency: Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Is a VERY GOOD powder for mid range .357 loads but would opt out on this one for hotter personal defense loads or hunting ammo . All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. (There are some loads for a 90 gr. One powder for 38 and 357mag. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, State Agency: Nor with small hard bullets are you going to be leading free. My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. MLittle. You need a faster powder for the .38 and you do for the .357. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. From my perspective in this stage of my life if I could have only one centerfire rifle, it would be a .357 Magnum levergun, with my first choice being the Marlin 1894. I have also used Unique with success on lighter loads, Bullseye, Red Dot and American Select didn't impress me for 357 but I didn't try too hard either. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. The powders that are considered "Magnum Powders" are: AA#9, Alliant 2400, W296/H110, both IMR & H4227, Ramshot Enforcer and VV N350. For heavy loads, the Speer If the tolerances are close between minimum and maximum loads, imagine what the effect of different bullets might be. All kinds of projectiles, all kinds of usesall of them .357. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New. I'll admit they're a little stout, but still fun to shoot. Jul 22, 2015. Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester 6 shots and point the muzzle upwards before each shot across a chronograph and 6 shots with the muzzle pointed down over the same chronograph. I've tried Unique and Bullseye, and I've found the Red Dot burns cleaner . but only the gas check versions will normally work with the heavier loads. But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. A comprehensive used reloading setup often comes well below the price of a new gun, and if you have one, it can make your existing Magnums so diverse in function its like owning multiple guns. Gregory, just to give you an idea about Unique, I have loaded 357 mag with a 158 jacketed round to 7.5 grains using Winchester primers. . I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: Factory warranties may apply in some cases. 296 fan. Below, are three loaded rounds. IMR TrailBoss are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. The benefits of this are twofold. Life is worth living make every minute of every day count for you. Like Jimbo said you'll do better with two powders than one. (Photo: Andy C). With regards, 357Mag Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. with 125 and 158 Gr Lead or Coated Lead Bullets. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. If your looking for cast targets loads I run clays in 38spl with some variety of wad cutter. Great powder for the heaviest .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum loads. However, I've read Unique is hard to meter. Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. (Photo: Andy C). Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM April 2023, P.O. Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. In the .357 for heavy loads I have come to love Hodgdon's Lil'Gun w/magnum primers. I'd like to shoot a few hundred rounds before I do that. Addeddate 2019-02-28 05:18:26 Identifier CompleteReloadingManualForThe357Magnum2004 Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t22c6j49s Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) They are all determined experimentally. One of my favorite heavy bullets is the 200-gr. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. length article about the .357 Magnum can be found on the Handgun yoshie wrote:22g of 2205 nearly fills up a 44 mag case to the bottom of the bullet, 10g of AP70n isn't as full. With standard primers it's a little lower velocity (more like 925). ", http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show58-SCW-results, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to JavaScript is disabled. For reduced power loads in the .357 I've had great success with accuracy from Trail boss. But have used Power Pistol in .357 Sig. I agree with @Knob Creek on the clays though. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. pressures may have been even higher; and if you shoot one of those . On the other hand, 16.2 By signing up you agree to Guns.com's (Photo: Andy C). * Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. I also want to reload .38's with it. HP38 is probably as fast as I would go, but in my case, 10.1 grs. Powder requirements for the plated bullets are supposed to be half way between lead and jacketed reloading data. The .38 Special has a Max pressure of 17,000 PSI whereas the .357 Magnum can go as high as 35,000 PSI. IPSCs revolver division rules basically demand a .45 ACP moonclip gun, but in IDPA the speedloader-fed .357 magnums are alive and well. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. a slower burning powder, I suggest H-4227, LilGun, W-296,2400, HS6 or No. rickyd.41Mag said: HP 38/W231 is my most widely used powder. But if you dont want to buy a new gun to try them out, you can get by with the .357 magnum. For the .357 mag I load hard cast bullets at full power (1,250 fps +/-) mostly using 2400 and AA#9. 231 is fine for a 38 load but not slow enough for a full house 357. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Massachusetts Division of Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: I use it in .38 Special, .357 Mag, 45 ACP and even light loads in .41 Mag. Hand loading self-defense ammo isnt recommended so well table that, but you can load up practice rounds that can approximate your chosen self-defense loads. davestarbuck posted this 06 December 2010. If you do use it in your 357Mag revolver, could you do a simple test for us? A stiff .357 load is plenty of punch for a relatively delicate animal like a whitetail. Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: First time using lead cast bullets. Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for maximum loads This includes the majority of mainstream handgun rounds including the 9mm, 38 Special, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. The Hornady 158 XTP-JHP over 15.5 grains of H110 is just under 1,600 fps in the Marlin and Rossi .357 leverguns. Like mentioned, use a magnum primer with magnum powders and do not reduce H1110/Win 296 below recommended start loads. Id like to make the case that everyone who loves shooting should have a place in their safe and on their shelves for a .357 Magnum firearm and ammunition. Winchester Smokeless Ball Powder. Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. No purchase necessary. Be careful my friend , regards brushunter, Gregory I like IMR 4227 .Heavy Grain's but I like the way it sends my 158 grers flyhere's a recipe for 38 spl and 357 mag. Always used 2400 for that and my .44. I have been working up some loads for my 357's (686 6", 27 5", and 28 4") using Alliant Power Pro 300MP. Bianchi Speed Strips are a compact loading device for revolvers . Bullseye is also good in .38 Special. By focusing on using it for multiple roles, you can save a lot on organization and components, not to mention guns, and youre not likely to miss a beat in efficiency or enjoyment. Indiana Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: In 1935, Smith & Wesson introduced the .357 Magnum. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Find a book that lists loads for the bullet you will use. the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. If handgun hunting is your thing, or you want to carry a revolver for protecting from four-legged predators in the wild, the FTX bullet doesnt provide as much benefit as it does in a rifle. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. I have your 66's cousin - a 66-1 4", which is my favorite shooter! The last one, a brand-new Remington/Marlin, came from my local gun shop a couple months back. will drive those bullets to a MV of 1217 fps. 32 H&R Magnum. Whenever You Try To Make Something IDIOT PROOFThey Will Just Make Better IDIOTS! section of the Speer Reloading Manual Number 14 Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I have probably tried a little of every thing and I seem like Titegroup a little better than any other pistol powder that I have used. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DILLION CARBIDE 45 LONG COLT 3 DIE SET #14405 NOS RELOADING at the best online prices at eBay! Made from a flexible urethane material. By FortuneCookie45LC. While the revolver divisions of IPSC and IDPA are dwindling in participation numbers, theyre extremely rewarding to focus on. Big enough that components can be easily handled, small enough not to need special gear, and common enough to be inexpensive. The revolver has fallen out of favour in Bullseye but it still makes a great centrefire gun, and one of handgunnings most accurate loadsthe 148 grain hollow based wadcutter with Bullseye powdersaw most of its use here. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM May 2023, P.O. Just remember, in .357 Magnum, some powders can be too fast. If that works for you, forge onward. can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. For the most part, I use the same loads in .357 Magnum leverguns as I do in sixguns chambered for the same cartridge. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w . There certainly is no argument when using a .357 Magnum levergun. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. upper mid, etc. I'm thinking Unique, but I'm not sure. . Reloading bench, featuring the very reloadable .357. Gregory, I've tried over the years, if I was "tailoring" a load to a specific handgun (especially barrel length), to pay attention to the "burn rate" of the powder. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. Buffalo Bore offers a hard-hitting, high-velocity 180-grain JHP loading well-suited to taking deer-sized game at 50 yards or so. 6.4 gr. Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. These days, thats saying quite a lot! This was written nearly 40 years ago and not much has changed. loads today have a limit of 17,000 p.s.i., whereas the .357 Magnum's is 35,000. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. of Bullseye alot as a . When Im researching guns and I find myself in that fevered moment where I must have a new treasure, my most common check against excess is a simple mental test: 1) Is it going to do anything my .357 Magnums wont do? I went to the Rainier Plated because they are a bit cleaner to shoot. other. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, State Agency: grains of H110 powder will drive the 140 grain bullet to a MV of 1323 No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. These Speer velocities - Take it easy, but take it! bullet to a MV of 1352 fps. A 50-ft target with the .357 Blackhawk using 158-grain cast flatpoints with 7.0 grains of Unique. back in the 1930s) should reach over 1500 f.p.s. Both sports demand power and accuracy, so a combination of a heavy lead bullet, slow powder, and a longer barrel will be a benefit. 2) Am I likely to shoot it more often than my .357s? The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. If youre looking for target loads on 38/357 than any fast burning pistol powder will work. Surprisingly, or not so surprisingly depending upon your point of view, factory chambered leverguns for the .44 Magnum were offered more than 15 years before arriving in .357 Magnum. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: I can't claim to have developed these - just use them as my go to loads. I just checked my powders, and I have way too much Bullseye, and only a fair amount of 2400. I want something that best suits a newbie to reloading.

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